V4 with FT-817
  • Well I've had my V4 for a little less than a week but I'm pleasantly surprised by it's simplicity and performance.


    The V4 is mounted to the left side of my FT-817 on an "L"  bracket with a short pigtail going from the base of the V4 to the front of 817 and from all the testing that I have done it performs quite well! It is not recommended that you mount the V4 directly to the 817's connector, it won't handle the motion of moving back and forth and could fatigue crack the BNC.


    On 6 meters the S.W.R. is 1.2:1 on 50.125 and doesn't vary much on the low end of the band. On 10 meters the S.W.R. is 1.2:1 on 28.400 with little variation, and on 15 meters it was 1.3:1 on 21.400. 17 meters is 1.5:1, the counterpoise I am using is a spiral ground plane inside my backpack with a pigtail going from the 817 to a banana jack in the center of the counterpoise.


    No tuner, no additional tuning! Not the best ground system,  however I worked 6 meters with a distance of 12 miles and 2 watts with the V4 and a quick change from my standard 55" whip to the V4 showed a noticeable gain on this band. You can hear the difference in performance when you add a ground which is essential, you can use the antenna without a ground but with my system it works well.


    10 meters while pedestrian mobile I worked into the midwest with 2 watts, walking in hilly terrain. Band conditions? Perhaps, but the second base loaded 10 meter vertical did not perform well at all and switched back to the V4, they heard my CQ and had good reports.


    I hope to add some photos (perhaps Carl can put the photos up) of the installation of the V4 on the side of the 817 to show how it was done.


    After looking at my other options and the way this antenna performs and looks on the 817 I am glad to say that I would get another and am pleased that Chameleon came out with this design, no tuning, no hastle, looks good, you would think that it was made for the radio, what else is there?


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    Glenn, VA7VO

  • Glenn, to be frank I am envious of the low swr's you are acheiving - and with no tuning involved
    I have posted a separate discussion re mobile use of the v4 where I have had difficulties on 6m FM at 52.03.
    When I measure the SWR on various bands using an MFJ-269, all the readings are between 1.8 and 2.6, although this changes a bit with different coax lengths.

    So its a puzzle to me why this works so well for you. Even Chameleon say a tuner is rerquired.
    You say you are using just a "spiral groundplane in your backpack."
    Could you describe this in more detail?
    Thanks
  • Hi, Sure. The spiral ground plane or counterpoise is 1/2" wide copper tape placed on a 12"x12" piece of plexiglass spaced 1/2", start from the outside of the the plexiglass and work your way to the center of the plexiglass form and at the middle place a grounded banana jack at the center.


    Try typing in spiral counterpoise in your Google images and you should find at least one example.


    I guess the way the 817 is configured or the broad input of the front BNC connector helps and also that the V4 needs a really good ground to perform. An S.W.R. or less than 1.8 is generally okay and you won't see any fold back of the power output from the radio.


    What bands are you using the antenna on and what is your mounting configuration?


    As a food for thought comment, I had a 6 meter vertical mounted to the left side of a Nissan Versa and the S.W.R. was 2.5:1, however when I moved the antenna to the right side the S.W.R. was 1.3:1 so go figure.


     


    Glenn, VA7VO


     

  • Just did some testing with the rear connector on the 817 ( L connector on back ) with a counterpoise and the S.W.R. changed very little on the 4 bands.


    6 meters unchanged, 10 meters 1.4:1, 12 meters 1.5:1 and 15 meters was 1.4:1 and this was with two counterpoise wires and then changed to the spiral counterpoise.


    Glenn, VA7VO

  • Genn, thanks for the info.

    See my postings re V4 with autotuner for details of what my issue is.

    Don

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